Monday, July 31, 2006

QIPS ?????


This is so damned funny, I can't resist posting it. You can read the whole article on the link above, but I'm going to take pieces out cause there so damned funny.

The Quincy City Council is considering a plan to build three hydroelectric power plants on the Mississippi River.
The council's Finance Committee agreed Monday to recommend the council seek federal permits to build hydroelectric plants at Lock and Dam 20 at Canton, Mo., Lock and Dam 21 at Quincy and Lock and Dam 22 at Saverton, Mo.

In recent years, an Ohio power company has held the permits for most of the locks and dams on the upper Mississippi River. However, the company did not take any action to move forward with any hydroelectric plants, and the permits lapsed.

Hint #1: If somebody already looked at it and didn't take any action......WHY ???

Quincy officials feel it would be in the city's best interests to seek permits for the three dams closest to Quincy. The application fee would total $15,000 for all three locations. If the permits are granted, the city would then spend an additional $45,000 to update a feasibility study conducted in 1983 by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

$60,000 spent and we're just LOOKING at it ???? Who gets this money ??? Next paragraph>

The original feasibility study showed that many of the locks and dams on the upper Mississippi — including all three in this area — have favorable capabilities for producing hydropower, according to Mike Klingner, who heads the Quincy-based Klingner & Associates engineering firm.

Ching Ching !!!

Several factors could make this an attractive opportunity for the city. For one thing, federal legislation signed last year will require power companies by the year 2012 to buy at least 8 percent of their power from so-called "green energy" sources, which are comprised of any renewable, non-polluting energy source, such as wind energy, solar energy or hydroelectric energy.
That means power companies will be looking for new sources of energy, including any hydroelectric plants that begin operating in coming years. "The demand is definitely going to be there," Klingner said.
If Quincy were to build and operate the three hydroelectric plants — or even if it ultimately decides to take on just one such project — the city would be able to use some of the generated power to meet the electrical needs of, say, the city's wastewater treatment facility. Then it could sell the surplus electricity to a local power company, such as AmerenCIPS or Adams Electric Cooperative.

Hint #2: Who runs the city wastewater plant ??? Not the city, they couldn't efficently run it. How do we expect them to run a power plant ???


That means, for example, that if one 15-megawatt plant were to be built, it would cost between $22.5 million to $30 million. If three plants that size were built, the total cost would be $67.5 million to $90 million.

...and what's the payback on $90 million investment ????

In addition, the city would face about $300,000 in engineering costs plus $150,000 for an environmental impact assessment for each location — just to prepare a draft license application. More engineering fees would come for final plans and permits.

....and I would guess that Klingners would be the one for the studies ???? Ching Ching !!!!


Pete Pohlman, a GREDF spokesman, said conditions appear to be right for a city such as Quincy to take on such a project. "We think it's a natural for the city," he said.

Just like "natural" disaster.......

Mayor John Spring also likes the idea. "It has great potential," he said.

...so did the Titanic.....

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm having difficulty with the idea of Quincy, Illinois, having the ability to own and/or operate something in Canton and Saverton, Missouri. Not only out of the city limits but out of state. Has anyone looked into that aspect of the proposal? Better put Andrew on it.

Anonymous said...

Hey Lootie - What part of the Illinois side of the dam at Canton or Saverton is in the City of Quincy? Wasn't it necessary to play games to get the airport into the city? You're only dealing with half the problem.

Anonymous said...

Quincy is a municipal corporation not a private business. The capital it has to invest comes from the taxpayers. Invesitgating a hydro plant at lock and dam 21 appears to be for the best interest of the city. Many cities own power plants to produce power for their residents. I question whether the city charter or Illinois law permits a municipal corportion to enter into a business venture such as you suggest.

Anonymous said...

I agree the power plants would be a wonderful thing for our community. There would be the jobs for building them, the resulting economic benefit to the community during construction, the undeniable benefit when up and running and the long term jobs created for their operation, maintenance, etc. My point is simply that for areas outside the city, development should be private and not by the city itself even if authorized by law to do it. My reference to Andrew in a prior comment was to Andrew Staff, the city attorney, who I believe should look into it. So there.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad someone else noticed that the govenor's appointed chairman of some sort of west central Illinois development board or commission is supposedly working for development of the area on one hand and working against it on the other. Does that remind you of a two headed turtle you may have seen recently? Two mouths to talk out of at the same time.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like the parties who will determine the outcome can settle it at Sunday dinner...only in Quincy.

Anonymous said...

Lootie:

Need to check out tonight QHW. Article says:

If Quincy were to build and operate the three hydroelectric plants — or even just one — the city would be able to use some of the generated power to meet its own electrical needs

Sound like the city is doing this, not a privite company ????

Anonymous said...

Hey !!!

...and ya read the rest of the article, Klingners gets two more city contracts. Wow imagine that.

What are the odds ???

 
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