OK.
....after several weeks of nothing, guess I will open it up this WEEK to whatever is on your mind. Have thought about several items that have ALMOST prompted me to fire up the the laptop and bitch, but didn't. This included the property tax increase which absolutely NO ONE took any blame for but blaming the multiplier of the state ( right). QHW paper being printed in J-ville. See that the QPS union is looking for a new contract and pretty much everyone will bitch if the teachers make anything close to what the trash haulers for the city make. City still losing the corn plant to our neighbors to the west. Cold temps this weekend blamed on Bush. Global warming films by the weenie who LOST the election. You name it.
Keep 'er clean and to the point.
....and as always, Thanks for stopping by.
43 comments:
I don't know about the rest of Adams County, but my taxes went up $300 because of John Wood and the school board. Kind of easy to tell if you take a look at your bill.
I don't think anyone has an objection to teachers making more money. Most are just sick and tired of watching the QPS administration making more than their fair share.
I object to teachers making more money. I don't object to good teachers making more money. The unions make this impossible.
9:41
I object to 4th grade teachers at Monroe school making 90,000 grand a year in the last 3 years of their "buyout".
Yes, that would be me objecting. Also, don't speak for me or anyone else anymore.
You're going to object to a teacher making more money after the Schildt buyout deal? We have athletes in every sport making millions to play with a ball yet the people teaching our young don't make jack shit by comparison.
If I were a member of the teachers union, I'd be plenty pissed at what these administrators and their 15 secreteries each make on a yearly basis.
Not disagreeing with you on the fact that most of these buyouts and pay in the years just prior to their retirement are crap but come on guys, the problem starts at the top.
Why is the person in charge of QPS making the same amounnt of money as the gentleman running the Chicago public schools? Which one of these gentlemen have more students and responsibilities?
8:45 (QPS teacher)
Don't even compare teachers salaries with pro athletes. Get real, that's not a valid camparison. Nothing is a valid comparison to pro athletes, you're stretching way too far. (There are plenty of other jobs that can be romanticized, police, fire, defense). For instance, what's a grunt packin an M-4 in Irag fighting for your freedom and his own life worth? Bet he ain't making 90G his last 3 years for telling nursery rymes at "story time" before "nap time".
And may I add about the benefit package QPS employees receive? Get real, everyone's healthcare insurance is going up and suffering right now, don't complain to me about it..It's life, the rest of us have to deal w/ it. And do most employers give a pension??? Heck no we have to build our retirement w/ 401K's and out of our own pockets. Look at the Parochial school teachers and administrators, they seem to be doing their jobs just fine. They either get the choice to sign their contract or not have a job. Also their administrators probably make less than the average teacher at QPS. Life is rough, we live in Quincy, IL, most of us are underpaid. Deal w/ it!
"We have athletes in every sport making millions to play with a ball yet the people teaching our young don't make jack shit by comparison."
I hope you're not teaching Economics.
Anyone can be a teacher. Most teachers graduate in the bottom third of their class. Not many can throw a baseball 100 mph or are 7'4" and run like dear or...well you get the picture.
I meant deer.
It all comes down to running a business. If the school district ran the district in a more business like manner and people had the perception that their tax dollars were being invested properly this discussion would not be as colorful. Good schools are important to attract solid citizens, good doctors and other businesses. We need a good school system, and for the most part, we have one. There is much that they can do better, but we elect the same people to the board and wonder why nothing changes.
6:23
Don't even pop off about Bud, smart ass. Bud is the only one that has any sense. If it wasn't for Bub, we'd all be up shit creek and more broke-dick than we already are.
There is one problem with Bud. He votes no all the time (which I do appreciate) but he never takes the time to find a solution to the problem. Voting no just to vote no does not put us in a better position thatn before.
Wow, you guys jumped all over the pro athlete analogy but never touched the fact that the guy running QPS is making the same amount of money as the guy running Chicago public schools? What gives?
He's overpaid too. All these admin positions require ridiculous degrees and/or admin training, so you end up with career students with little real world common sense. Fact is the pool to choose from is shallow because you have to have something like 5 masters degrees. Another square cog in the broken machine of the government run education system. Reform is necessary. No amount of money can fix the current system.
Last thing we want to do is create a reason for Chitown to have more money. Trust me, none of these tax payer funded crats are going to take a pay cut, it'll only go up. It ain't the Hog Butcher of the World, it's the Budget Butcher of the State (yours).
There's your Chi response, that's a sleeping dog we want to let sleep, not feed more.
Anonymous said...
6:23
Don't even pop off about Bud, smart ass. Bud is the only one that has any sense. If it wasn't for Bub, we'd all be up shit creek and more broke-dick than we already are.
10:34 PM, June 14, 2006
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Perfect example of what is so true. Keep electing the same guy and expect different results. If your BUB (nice spelling job) represents you, I have enough information on not keeping this debate going any longer. It would be too hard for you to follow.
I am amazed and sad when the teacher pay debate comes up on blogs etc. Most posters are uninformed and are too lazy to become informed to offer much in this debate. I am a pro business, fiscally conservative, anti-tax Reagan republican, whose wife happens to be a story telling, ass wiping, nap moderating kindergarten teacher for QPS. I see my "over paid" but none the less educated, professional, caring and highly effective teacher of a wife deal with kids that have, at times, no support from home and ever increasing government requirements on what her kids are to learn. She has in in the past dealt with personal threats, abused kids, hungry kids as well as a distrct administration and board that at times places little value on her professionalism and abilities. For all of this crap she still loves and teaches her kids to their utmost abilities. Also for this crap she makes less than the maintenance people at her school, less than a third of what the lowest paid administrator makes, and less than what some "building administrators" (whatever the hell that job is)makes.
She is not alone, the majority of ass wipers at her school are similar to her approach to teaching. In other words they care. Primary teachers, grades K-3 for those too lazy to look it up, teach their students at a level that was unheard of in the past. I invite anybody that reads this to spend one day in a K-3 classroom and dare to tell me these people are overpaid at $32,000.00 a year after ten years of employment.
Oh and by the way, with what kids are learning at school today, the "ass wipers" have taught the average first grader enough to read this post. Another by the way, my wife chose to be a teacher and graduated with honors from college.
As far as benefits, we pay for my kids to be covered under her insurance. Granted it's a good rate and a decent plan, but it has gone up and deductibles and co-pays are up as well.
As far as the retirement deal. Yes she has a good retirement plan but remember teachers in the TRS plan will not receive social security from their teaching salaries.
Bye-Bye
9:22
Tell her to go thanks her union.
4:06
Again, you missed your calling in life. You should have been a grade school teaching nun. You probably have the sex appeal of one. You need to focus on spell checking the ----house wall in the school you work at, oh, but I hear from the other post that those people make more than you. Wonder why?
4:06
Don't worry, it's ok! We'll get Bud or Bub right in the voting booth!. Don't worry, we'll find him. You guys can get his name right when you send him the hate mail (real class).
Round about this time in the blog debate, after the anal spell checkers sound off, and the exploited tax payers get done bitching, and the union goons chime in, someone always comes in saying they have a better handle on the issue because they were educated in private school, usually Chicago or St. Louis. It's that person's turn, and we better wait for the/them to have a turn. Don't nobody post until we hear the from "I'm better than thou, for I went to private school" He/she should be posting soon, then maybe we will hear from a spokesman from 172. LOL
I'm not a Bud fan. Private schools are better. Teachers make more money per hour worked in a year than engineers. Good teachers are underpaid. The current system is broke. Unions and government monopoly breed mediocrity and we need to seperate the social issues from the educational issues. Vouchers are good. Merit pay is good. Take it away 172.
Bud is a dork. And the people that vote for him are dorkettes.
And my private school can beat up your public school-dorkette.
6:12
Get your own ass elected to the school board.
You couldn't carry Bud's "NO" stamper case.
If private schools are so much better, why did I have to go through cult desensitization therapy after attending them for 16 years, anybody got an answer for that?
God, Froman charges a lot!
The Dorkettes have arrived....
Let's complain about a board and then ignore the fact that we keep electing the same guy and he gets no results or changes anything...
Yeah, thank god for Bud, same results...Dorkness
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Has there been a recent candidate that would have made a difference? If so, who?
Can 100,000aire Leahy make a differance? Should he, isn't that why he's a 100,000aire?
FYI to the husband of the teacher: There will be A LOT of us not receiving Social Security by the time we are old enough. It won't even exist then.
2:54
Right on, brother. Dude acts like his old lady is a marter, or somethin. I love his "too lazy to research the issue" attitude. You don't want to check out this issue, it's a rotten onion, more your peel, more it stinks. How's the tort lawsuit coming along? Also, how's the adminstrator from 03 doing in Marguaritaville(sp?, don't know, who cares), with his 150,000 grand buyout?
Any enterprise dependant on the government at any level is fucked.
Anon 3:59
You are making my point for me. My response was to a specific post about high paid teachers breaking the district. I agree that all of the issues you raise are what has hurt our schools, the buyouts, high admin. pay etc. But how can you blame the teachers for this stuff? These are board decisions made by OUR elected board, not by teachers.
12:09
Once and for all, though I tend to focus on the teachers, I admit the 172 Admin is at fault also. There, I said it, are you happy? The bad part about it is that it sucks for the community as a whole.
Yes, it's a double edged sword, just like gouge-game between Big HMO's and health care providers, both are driving us progressively broke(er). Just tryin to say that the property owners are tired of geting caught in the stampeed to the $ trough by the greedy pigs of the teachers union and, yes, 172 admin.
12:09
Once and for all, though I tend to focus on the teachers, I admit the 172 Admin is at fault also. There, I said it, are you happy? The bad part about it is that it sucks for the community as a whole.
Yes, it's a double edged sword, just like gouge-game between Big HMO's and health care providers, both are driving us progressively broke(er). Just tryin to say that the property owners are tired of geting caught in the stampeed to the $ trough by the greedy pigs of the teachers union and, yes, 172 admin.
Not to change the subject, but how about the proposal Sue Beach at the QPL floated to the Friends of the library at their meeting yesterday. Buy the Library Alliance building for about $180000 (she was real vague on the #'s) not for offices she insisted, but just so the book sale would have more room. She presented it as a dun deal and just needed the friends money and support. At $4000 per booksale the taxpayers will see a payback in no time. Wow we are plush with cash here in the river city. The race is on for the local media scoop on this one.
I'm looking for an amatuer to fight a female in the 150-161 pound class in October. The gal who was supposed to box can't do it now due to injury. The boxing group is in the Hannibal Armory. If you know of a female who would want to to fight in the 150-161 pound class let me know.
Important: she must be able to make weight, 105-161.
check that 105-161
check it again, jeez
150-161
If I did happen to know of a 160# female boxer in the Quincy area, how would I go about letting you know?
NO.
the tax hike due to john wood is shit, i went to john wood and the school sucks the staff doesnt know their jobs, their credits dont transfer, having to pay to support that school is bull
You're right about the credits, they con & bully kids into taking coarses that don't transfer. Rule of thumb:if it ain't at least 100 level, don't take it.
Soccer moms talking on cell phones driving through intersections in SUV's.
Tell your old ladies to hang the phones up!
Don't by the B*tch an SUV if she can't drive it safely.
The last two years, teachers have had to pay more of their health insurance. In the year 2005-2006, teachers contributed about 5.5 million to their self-insurance fund. The expenses to the fund that year were only around 4.7 million, so everyone expected the difference of about $800,000 would just provide a cushion and would accumulate in the fund and help build it up. What they did not realize is the administration had it set up to go into the general fund at the end of the fiscal year, and the self-insurance fund had to start from zero again the following year. So, essentially, the teachers had to kickback $800,000 to the general fund from their 2005-2006 salaries that were actually lower than their previous year's salaries ( as in take home pay)
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